I am extremely bothered by the reference to Robert and Jane’s relationship as “Robert and “that woman” or ”that maid” and have been seeing it pop up more and more lately. Understandably, it is a storyline that none of us is particularly…
Slash names were invented to denote pairings in fanfiction. I know this, because back when we had to walk to our fanfic archives barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways, that’s how we sorted through it. If I were discussing fanfiction or even that particular pairing, I would refer to it as Robert/Jane.
If I’m in the throes of a Cobert discussion about a boneheaded storyline about a purposely flimsy character meant to be tossed aside when Robert came to his senses (that has actually been afforded less emotional impact and discussion than Robert’s desire to wear a tux to dinner), it’s not going to cross my mind to give it any more thought than Robert did. If I’m discussing that crappy thing Robert did in regards to his marriage and family, it’s Robert’s indiscretion with that maid.
That’s not throwing shade at Jane or fans of the pairing. Sorry if you feel that way - that’s not how it was intended. However in terms of my lexicon for this show? It’s there. There’s a lot of baggage wadded up in that phrase, and it’s a shorthand that has been adopted by a lot of people. It conveys a myriad of feelings, complex ones, that are intrinsically tied to the whole storyline. I would imagine some people (read: me) can’t change that lexicon because suddenly all the things attached to it are lost.
All of which is moot because I pretty much abandon the fandom during hiatus and haven’t discussed Jane in roughly a thousand and ten years.
(meanwhile, this has dredged up all my pissiness about the storyline and Cora laying half-dead in her bed and APOLOGIZING for hurting woobie!Robert’s feelings. And he’s off playing grab-ass with a maid - because he didn’t know she was sick - because he was off playing grab-ass with a maid! And he’s like “yeah, cora, I forgive you for not doting.” when you can see he’s like “pshew, dodged that bullet. now let’s pay the girl off so I don’t have to feel guilty ANY MORE” and suddenly he’s every bad cliche about the aristocracy and I want to box his ears.)
I am extremely bothered by the reference to Robert and Jane’s relationship as “Robert and “that woman” or ”that maid” and have been seeing it pop up more and more lately. Understandably, it is a storyline that none of us is particularly fond of or likes to discuss, but I find…
Considering how silent I am in the fandom anymore, my $.02 hardly means anything. Although I’m pretty sure I am partly to blame for people calling Jane “that maid” so I guess I’ll say my piece. Calling Jane “that maid” isn’t a reflection on Jane. It’s basically the verbalization that Robert would have fallen on the first female to bat her eyes at him because he was being that much of a dunderhead. His behavior through all of that, while possibly explained by the stress of war, comes down to a grown ass man having a temper tantrum because he wasn’t the center of everyone’s universe anymore. His behavior was appalling and I firmly believe he has forgotten her name just as quickly as he pinned her to the wall. Maybe he’s a soft heart for the broken woman he took advantage of - maybe he’ll always fondly remember “his Jane” - but a man in Robert’s position spends more time forgetting his stupid selfishness than reminscing fondly on it (losing Cora’s fortune, anyone?). I would imagine, should it be referred to in that house in hushed tones, it would be the scandal of Robert and that maid. Nobody, least of all that family, is going to dare utter her name.
Basically it has nothing to do with Jane herself, who was simply starry-eyed by the power of her employer and who got short-changed by his boorish behavior. Oh, he’s gonna pay for the boy to go to school? Well done, Robert. Men often pay women for their affections. We call them a lot worse things than “maid”. It represents my bitterness towards Robert and his selfishness and his belief that the women around him were put on this earth to make him feel special. (a product of the time, no doubt, but still uncool.) It’s a lot easier to say than “that time the dumbass took to groping and taking advantage of the staff to make himself feel manly because Cora didn’t eat lunch with him WOE.”
Thank God he seems to have grown out of it, although I think that spoiled boy-earl will always live in him.
As for other shippers having their feelings hurt about it - eh. If it makes them feel any better, than can call Cora that American or that heiress.
I will simply refer to her as my queen. :) (I am kidding. probably.)
Alias 3x12 Crossings
Jack: I know what you’re thinking.
Irina: Do you?
Irina: I’ve had a picture of your face in my mind for twenty years. I remember a loving husband, a generous man, a patriot. I may have been under orders to fabricate a life with you, but there were times when the illusion of our marriage was as powerful for me as it was for you especially when Sydney was born. Looking at you now, I see that illusion is finally gone.
Jack: I want to make something very clear to you. There are people here who believe you can repay the debt you owe this country through your continued cooperation. I am not one of them. And if Sydney in any way becomes victim to your endgame, I will kill you. She spent most of her life believing you were dead. She’ll get used to it again, no matter what bond you try to forge with her.